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Ocean versions of lake specials #70339
Ocean versions of lake specials #70339
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I suggest we do at least make the aircraft carrier ocean-only. Finding one is a gigantic windfall, and since it's a possible starting location it's not too hard to get to if you really want. We could even make it not globally unique. Other ocean-specific starts would be great for players who want to guarantee they have access to ocean content in their runs. If limiting the carrier to oceans has to wait for that, then so be it. |
Erk said just to make copies for now rather than remove lake ones, for the carrier I'm going to have 2 globally unique ones (1 for lake 1 for ocean) I think so one is at least guaranteed to spawn in the ocean. Changing relevant stuff to be ocean only in the long run should be reasonably trivial. Being able to manipulate your spawn coords for scenarios would obv be great but I don't think that alone should remove elements from elsewhere. (I really want to make a Liberty Isle special which would be a cool start locale) |
While you say it isn't removing any specials, I'd suggest removing the lake lighthouse. It makes no sense for it to exist in a lake. And it'd give people a ocean/shore-based spawn if they use the Safe Place start, for example. Or is it better to be a dice roll at present? |
I'm not removing things from lakes at present bc the average player isn't going to be going to the ocean atm so it would essentially be removing content for them until we have better long distance travel.
If you set an ocean only thing as a scenario start location it will just fail, scenarios don't search that far, we need infra so you can change the initial search coords for that to work |
Definitely a thing that would be welcome in a follow-up PR so that lighthouses can be moved to oceans |
Yes, if we get it set up so that people can choose to start near the ocean then I'd be ok with moving a few things over there completely. As it stands right now that's close to deleting the content. |
Waiting on me or someone else to implement #70471 or something similar |
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Waiting on going back to this until I finish #72866, this isn't abandoned |
Summary
Content "Existing lake specials now spawn in the ocean"
Purpose of change
Oceans are empty of locations
Describe the solution
Describe alternatives you've considered
Testing
Additional context
Thanks to ralreegorganon for fixing predecessor stuff with lakes so I can test properly
This does mean alot of things with lake in their JSON name now also relate to ocean, not sure where our "no renaming bc wastes reviewers time" stance is on this. Also the "water" special_location is very misleading bc it's only river not lakes nor ocean. Also "river_cave" doesn't even spawn in river.
[WIP Ignore for now] List of lake specials and their new status:
Boat Rental/Boat Rental 1/Boat Rental 2
Lakeside Cabin/Lakeside Cabin 1/Lakeside Cabin 3/Lakeside Cabin 4/Lakeside Cabin 5
Alcatraz Prison/Island prison
lake_shore_dock_small
Island/Island Forest/Sandy Island/Island_1/Island_2/Island_3/Island_4/Island_5_swamp/Island_5_forest/Island_5_forest_thick/Island_5_field
Lighthouse Island
Lake Island Cabin
marina
Freshwater Research Station
aircraft_carrier